Friday, November 16, 2012

Apollo 20 REAL OR A COVER-UP ?

Source - http://reinep.wordpress.com/2011/06/03/apollo-20-real-or-a-cover-up/

After Ive been dragging this topic back and forward I now decided to present it as an possible theory of what could’ve happened. Anyways, according top secret (leaked) report (W.Rutledge) which was also supported by some outstanding videos in his statement`s, that was uploaded on YouTube since April 2007, after the Apollo 17 (December 1972) and the “Apollo18-Soyuz” mission taken place in July 1975, there were other two missions on the Moon: the Apollo 19 (failed because of, see the interview with W.Rutledge further down in the article) and the Apollo 20 (August 1976), which were both classified Space missions launched from the Vandenberg Air Force Base (California). The goal of these two presumed secret joint space mission, result of an American-Soviet collaboration, was to reach the backside of the Moon to the (Delporte-Izsak region, close to the well-known Tsiolkovsky crater) and to explore a huge object found out during the Apollo 15 mission. What the Apollo 20 crew found? first i must add that some of my sources believe (that Apollo 20 was a hoax by NASA to give further proof that the original Apollo went to the moon which they didn’t) I could also agree to this possibility off course.



What did they find then? Apparently they found a huge and ancient alien spaceship, (W. Rutledge). I think almost anything becomes possible after these pictures. And regarding the video entitled “ALIEN SPACESHIP ON THE MOON flyover avalible on YouTube since May 4, 2007, as introduction you can find some sort of marking with the presumed mission patch, which contains an interesting Latin inscription. I realizedlater reading an essay of Latin quotations and sayings, that the Latin inscription on the presumed patch of the classified mission is from Virgilio’s “Bucoliche” (IX, 50). On the presumed patch I have the names of the crew as well, which is a typical NASA habit.

On April of 2007, several videos apparently taken by NASA have emerged showing a city on the moon and a close up of an alien cigar shaped vessel in Deporte crater. These videos were from the Apollo 20 mission. Apollo 20 was a covert Apollo missions to the moon to retrieve ancient alien technology. I’ll be the first to admit this really seems ridiculous to some, on first glance, but if you do a little research into William Rutledge’s story, then you begin to see that NASA has been hiding the truth for a long time, editing what we are allowed to know and not know. When researching this story, I hoped to learn the truth about the covert missions to the moon. What I learned instead stunned my imagination, strengthened by beliefs and amplified my fears. Rutledge does show that he has an extreme knowledge of Geology, Chemistry, and space exploration, which can be seen in his vocabulary that he uses during his interview for a UFO magazine. Another reason that Rutledge seems credible is that he didn’t gain ANY money what so ever from the UFO interview, nor has he so far. So what could be his motive? Perhaps it is to bring out the truth about the existence of alien technology on the moon. William Rutledge is a seventy-eight year old man currently living in Rwanda. He claims to be an astronaut that traveled to the moon on a mission called Apollo 20. Now Apollo 17 was supposedly the last mission at NASA. At that point, NASA cancelled the next three missions, claiming that their budget currently was not capable of funding such an exploit. William Rutledge said that NASA’s Apollo 14 mission took photographs as they flew over the polar region of the dark side of the moon, recording numerous ships, odd shaped buildings, and ancient towering cities, most appearing abandoned for million years. As I investigated, I found that all Apollo missions from 14 to 17 flew over that polar region of the dark side of the moon. Each of those missions landed within a few hundred miles of each other, indicating that something in the area was of high scientific value. The main mission of Apollo 20 was to explore a mother ship long since abandoned, but discovered in Apollo 14 photographs. The mission took place near Deporte Crater, where a cigar shaped object is clearly visible even with the naked eye, in these NASA photos.


AS20-1020

WHAT IS THE APOLLO 20 ALIEN SHIP CONTROVERSY ?

We should also look at this. Although touted by “some” as a hoax for good reasons, agreed. Apollo 20 was overtly cancelled; nevertheless it does have an eerie feeling which wisper, Noah’s Ark on the moon. The presenter, retiredafb, seems to add other clips in evidence that Apollo 20 did fly a secret mission. Also the Lunar and Planetary Institute does have an artifact on file from Apollo 15: Apollo Image Atlas AS15-P-9625. 


Take a look and you`ll be the judge!






WRITTEN INTERVIEW WITH WILLIAM RUTLEDGE, AN “APOLLO 20″ ASTRONAUT (1976)

Interview With William Rutledge (special permission granted for Ray Alex Website) by Luca Scantamburlo

Luca Scantamburlo Website

I decided it is better avoiding to name the people who work for NASA now and mentioned by W. Rutledge in the answer nr.24, because it is necessary, in spite of his amazing video footages and his detailed report, waiting for further evidences about this amazing story, which is showing some contradictory aspects. As fact, in spite of their names are true and in public domain as Governmental employees, so far they are not known as historical leading characters, and there is no proof of a previous contact with W. Rutledge – But the things could change… Let’s see what happens.
L.S. June 30, 2007

A secret joint space mission on the Moon, result of an American-Soviet collaboration taken place in August 1976? Is it possible? Why not, if you consider that the existence of a Federal Agency like NRO (National Reconnaissance Office), and its missions of overhead reconnaissance, “were declassified in September 1992” (according to its official website). And is it really possible that such a collaboration has been prepared to explore a huge alien spaceship found on the backside of the Moon?

William Rutledge (according to his story, a man of 76 years old who lives in Rwanda, former of Bell Laboratories and employed by USAF) is the name of the “deep throat” who, since April 2007, has been disclosing information and spreading a lot of video and photographic material on YouTube, about the presumed Apollo 20 space mission. His user name on YouTube is “retiredafb”, and the most amazing footage he released so far is the presumed flyover of an ancient alien spaceship found on the backside of the Moon by the Apollo 15 crew.

The last official space mission to the Moon with crew was the Apollo 17 (NASA), which took place in December 1972, and the Apollo 20 mission was cancelled by NASA in January 1970. But the presumed footage of Apollo 20 is not the only material which came out in the last weeks: it was also released by William Rutledge a presumed studio for the flyover of the assumed alien spaceship (available on YouTube as the so-called preflight study for Apollo 20). And moreover on YouTube we have also several shots of the strange object on the backside of the Moon (whose numbers would be AS20-1020, AS20-1022 and AS20-FWD-7250). According to the YouTube file-card on William Rutledge, who uploaded the controversial footages and shots, <>

There are a few inconsistencies in William Rutledge’s memories that you can find in reading this interview. It could be comprehensible if you think about an old man (76 years old) who is trying to recall historical facts and events of his life. So, I am not astonished if Rutledge, for instance in talking about the former Russian President Boris Yeltsin who used tanks and troops during the assault to the Parliament building, recalled the years 1995 or 1994 when the exact year of the small civil war was 1993 (<<[…] I went to the Ural in 1995 or 1994, can’t recall, responding to an invitation, but it was a mess here, I crossed Moscow when tanks were shooting the Russian parliament>> by W. Rutledge, from the answer nr.8 of the interview). I verified it later on an encyclopaedia, but I could not answer before to such a question. I remembered only it occurred at the beginning of the ’90s. On the other hand William Rutledge showed me a knowledge of Geology, Chemistry and of space exploration history, using specific terms. For example, he mentioned in the interview a not well-know term: the “feldspathoid”, a “mineral consisting of an aluminous silicate that has too little silica to form feldspar” (Webster’s Third New International Dictionary, Könemann, 1993, pag. 835).

So, I have good grounds for believing William Rutledge’s testimony: first of all there really is (was?) a strange and big object on the far side of the Moon, and its shape is very close to that one showed in the video on YouTube: I am talking about the object visible in a couple of NASA pictures taken by the Apollo 15 mission. The cigar-shaped object looks like leant beside a crater, lightly oblique; and the visible zone in the footage is very similar to the visible region in some originals NASA photos taken by Apollo 15: the Moon region coordinates where there is the unusual object are the following: Latitude: 10° S – Longitude: 117.5° E, Southwest of Delporte and North of Izsak. I have checked on a Lunar chart: it is on the backside of the Moon.

The official NASA photos are available on the website of the Lunar and Planetary Institute (LPI, in Houston), which is a “research institute that provides support services to NASA and the planetary science community”: the links to find the pictures (the AS15-P-9630 and the AS15-P-9625, from the the Apollo Image Atlas) are the following.

Moreover, it is meaningful that the links were provided by William Rutledge (how did he know the details of those panoramic picture?). A second reason, in my opinion, is that William Rutledge is not gaining money from doing that. A third reason is the detailed story he told me in the following interview, full of technical and other specific aspects coherent among them. There are just some incomplete biographical notes about the famous NASA astronauts. But he answered kindly to every single question I have put to him, without hesitation, and he provided several names of the presumed American and Soviet people involved in that classified space mission. Some of them are still alive. It could be interesting to be able having a comment from them.

The fourth reason is the quality of the footages on YouTube, which seem consistent with a shot equipment available during the ‘70s and the first ‘80s. I asked to an expert in shot, an Italian friend of mine whose name initials are F.D. His comment about the footage spread by William Rutledge was the following:

<< i punti luce sovraesposti e la relativa ‘scia’ presentano tutte le caratteristiche dei difetti delle telecamere basate su tubo di tipo VIDICON. La ‘scia’ consiste in una persistenza del segnale video all’interno del tubo. […] Nonostante quest’ultimo sia un sistema di ripresa televisivo obsoleto, oggi la ditta Hamamatsu (www.hamamatsu.com) realizza telecamere VIDICON all’infrarosso.>>

In English it means:

<< the overexposed light points and the relative trail show all the features of the TV cameras faults based on VIDICON-type tube. The ‘trail’ is composed of a persistence of the video signal inside the tube. […] In spite this one is an obsolete TV shot system, today the Hamamatsu firm (www.hamamatsu.com) makes infrared VIDICON cameras.>>

And, as a matter of fact, among the several different varieties of photographic equipment aboard the Apollo 17, there was a Westinghouse color TV camera, which could used in the command module, handheld or bracket-mounted. It is almost obvious thinking to a similar camera equipment for the presumed Apollo 20, taken place in 1976 according to William Rutledge.

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In any case, the public will be the first judge of this story, which could become in the near future the definitive proof that we are not alone in the Universe.

FOREWORD FOR THE READERS

In the following interview granted by William Rutledge who lives now in Africa, I have corrected (where I could) the orthographical mistakes that there were in the answers (e.g. I put the right capital letters and the right apostrophes), but I did not change the syntactical construction of the sentences made by William Rutledge. Where I was not able to understand his words, I put some dots between square brackets. W. Rutledge told me he is now an old man with some problems to the his articulations; moreover, William explained to me that he’s always nervous when he writes. That’s why on YouTube you can find some mistakes in his comments (user name: retiredafb) posted with the footages. Anyway, here you are some words written by him for the foreword to the following interview:

<< I don’t use English since 1990 but Kinyarwanda and French, and I write quickly, sometimes letters are missing because I’m busy writing the next one, or it is another on the keyboard which is used, but that’s a detail…>>

1) Luca Scantamburlo: First of all I want to thank you for your time and availability. It means a lot for me and, I guess, for all the people around the world, very curious about what it is going on YouTube after the release of your amazing video footages and information on the presumed “Apollo 20” space mission. Now we can begin our interview. Because of my professional activity, I will start from a skeptical point of view. So please, I kindly ask you to understand it. You will have the space to answer and for explaining your reasons.
What is your name? How old are you and are you an American citizen? Sometimes your written English contains some orthographical mistakes… Are you forgetting your language rules(e.g., you wrote “maicroscope” instead of “microscope”)? Somebody on the Web said you do not seem (considering your writings) an American-English native land…

William Rutledge: I’m not offended, I like to answer to skeptics, you cannot imagine what kind of messages I receive. That’s my name, William Rutledge, no Standford Rutledge, it’s another one. Born in 1930 in Belgium, American citizen, I know about mistakes, I’m writing too fast with arthrose problems and I’m always nervous when I’m writing, it’s like trying to contain a flow of water. I’m not accustomed to speak in English anymore since 1990. I have learned Kinyarwanda and use French, sometimes German because Rwanda is a former Belgium-German colony.

2) L.S. How long have you been living in Rwanda and why did you move overthere?

W.R. It ‘s a woman who brought me to Rwanda, maybe I was searching for somebody like one person who shared my life before. Personally speaking, I have always been sensible to Africa born women. (Buzz Aldrin was also sensible, he was the only astronaut participating in a walk after martin Luther King’s death, it’s not a well known story). I established myself with a new identity in Kigali in 1990, streets have no names here. I stayed in Nyiamirambo quarter till 1994, war pushed me to the north west of the country, near the Congo Kinshasa frontier. Rwandan authorities do not know my past, my friends do.

3) L.S. Can you tell me anything about your life? Where are you from? Where did you study?

W.R. I’ve written on this on my others answers, Avro, Chance Vought, just consider that USAF uses every person who can bring skills, white, black, woman, every citizen. It was different with NASA, all astronauts were West Point students, only Alan Bean was an artist, Armstrong was a philosopher and Aldrin a spiritual man.

4) L.S. How did you become an astronaut with NASA (I suppose) in the ‘70s?

W.R. NASA didn’t employ me, USAF did, I had worked on the study of foreign technology, RUSSIAN only, study about the N1 project, AJAX plane project and the Mig Foxbat 25. I had some skills for using computer navigation and was a volunteer for the MOL-Gemini project. USAF recalled that, I have been chosen later for Apollo 20 because I was one of the rare pilot who didn’t believe in God (it has changed since 1990) but it was a criterion in 1976. It was not the status of the NASA astronauts. Not believing in God made the difference. That’s all.

5) L.S. Can you prove who you are with some photos or documents of yours, taken during the training by NASA or even before, during your work at the Bell Laboratories? Can you send them to me as attachments, for a publication?

W.R. Yes, I will put them online, but I will focus on Leonov, to end hoax controversy.

6) L.S. When and above all why did you decide to disclose these information about classified space missions and is there anybody who is protecting you?

W.R. It’s the announcement of “the wonder of it all” maybe, and 2012 is coming fast. I also think that UFOs will appear more often starting from September 2007. A lot of people died around me in Rwanda, and I have more time to take care of this. About protection, please understand it’s hard to speak of my armoury.

7) L.S. After the “Apollo 20” mission, taken place in August 1976 according to the information you have provided, what did you do and when did you leave the U.S.A. ?

W.R. After Apollo 20, several things happened, I was not aware of how the material collected would be used. I thought Space Shuttle was a bad idea, I’ve worked on the KH 11 project before retiring.

8) L.S. In your writings provided on YouTube you mentioned the members of the “Apollo 20” crew: among them there is the former Soviet cosmonaut, Alexei Leonov. I remember he is still alive. Does he know what you are doing on the Web? Did you talk with him before April 2007 and if the answer is no, aren’t you afraid about what he could do or tell?

W.R. Leonov is not aware of all this, I cannot contact him, contacts were completely lost in 1982-1984, I went to the Ural in 1995 or 1994, can’t recall, responding to an invitation, but it was a mess here, I crossed Moscow when tanks were shooting the Russian parliament. Cant’ imagine his reaction. If he discovers the videos without preparation, he can confirm or leave at once. If he is warned, and prepared, he can deny.

9) L.S. A question about the dialogues subtitles on the “spaceship footage”: did you make them or did somebody else make them? There are some mistakes (e.g., the personal pronoun is “I”, with the capital letter, not “i” as there is written). What about the original dialogues? Were there in the footage? Did you have problems with the codecs during the transfer?

W.R. Yes, plenty of problems, subtitles are made just before transfer, I have to work with the distance, I’ll be back in Rwanda in July. I asked to put the flyover very quickly, they made the subtitles in one hour, buried instead of burried, aperture to 1.8 is not at the right place, there are mistakes but is does not shock me. The Apollo 11 mention at the beginning of the film surprised me, it is on the original film, one internaut signaled that to me. The films are not the first generation, some of them were copied in 1982 I’m sure of this, some have a blue background from the end of the 70′s.

10) L.S. There are in the dialogues between the astronauts and the Mission Control, some expressions that I do not understand: for instance, “CSM”, “DSKY” and “Vandenberg Twenty”. I could think that “DSKY” is about the position on the Moon (close to the Izsak crater) and that the “Vandenberg Twenty” is about the Mission Control, located by the Vandeberg Air Force Base, in California. Can you explain them?

W.R. CSM is Command Service Module, DSKY was the computer “display keyboard”, we used many acronyms. AGC is Apollo Guidance Computer, same that DSKY, but located in the Apollo spacecraft and coupled with a telescope ( […] on the LM).

In some videos, the first image you see is the DSKY panel with lines prog indicates the program running verb and noun verb indicates what the DSKY has to do and show. Before filming I had to enter verb 15 (display MET, mission elapsed time, or hours minutes seconds since lift-off, then noun 65 for displaying on there rows, hours on the first line minutes on the second, and seconds/tens of seconds on the third line). Then in every movie we put the date on the beginning of the shot, MET, Mission Elapsed Time, hours since lift-off. In the flyover movie, the computer indicates 144 hours if I remember.

Capcom (CC) is the function of the unique officer charged of transmission to astronauts. He gathers all information and transmit them to the astronauts, news from the ground, instructions for the corrections, wake up calls, three persons relay.

The syntax was “Vandenberg” calling Vandenberg next “twenty” a call from twenty. Inverted when starting from Earth: Capcom- Twenty or sometimes EEcom- Twenty Guido – Twenty when we had a special work to do, docking, correction. When undocking was made the communications were different. Vandenberg Constellation (name of the Apollo spacecraft); Vandenberg Phoenix (name of the LM). The Apollo 19 Apollo spacecraft was Endymion and Artemis was the Lunar Module nam

11) L.S. I would like to know something more about the preparation of the “Apollo 20” mission. From where and when the Saturn rocket was launched and how many people were involved in that classified mission. Can you do some names?

W.R. 300 people were involved on the preparation, but more other witnesses in Vandenberg. It was launched from this AFB. More witnesses, yes, many people saw departures in the sky, cameras were forbidden all around the Vandenberg site, but today a lot of Space spotters film every launch of Delta rockets, from towns. Other people saw this launch but not knowing it was a Saturn 5. One internaut viewing the launch video says this launch is a Saturn 1B. If today, with all available information, somebody makes such a mistake, you can image how it was in 1976. The preparation was long, subject of cancellations, new starts. Russians had the first information since 1966, I don’t know what was their source.

12) L.S. Can you tell me anything about the Russian collaboration to “Apollo 20”?

W.R. James Chipman Fletcher for USA and Valentin Alexeiev for Russia, Werner Von Braun was one of the happy viewer. Capcom were Charles Peter Conrad and James Irwin.

13) L.S. Tell me something about the “Apollo 18” and the “Apollo 19” missions; specially about the last one and its failure. Was it a classified mission with the same goal of the “Apollo 20”? Tell me about your ex girlfriend, Stephanie Ellis, “first American woman in Space” according to what you wrote to me in a former letter. The official space history does not include her as astronaut…

W.R. Apollo 18 was the Apollo-Soyuz project, the honeymoon before a moon landing mission, it was presented as a simple “shaking hands ” mission in 1975. Apollo 19 and 20 were hazardous missions. On long duration flight the helium pressure was too high on the LEM, a security disk had to burst if pressure was going high, but motor was unusable after. So it was changed on Apollo 19 and 20, but not tested in Space before. It was ok, but… in the paper. However, we got no problem with it. It was a long mission, 7 days scheduled on the Moon, every ray of light was used till ascent.

Apollo 19 had a loss of telemetry, a brutal end of mission without data. Now the truth is unknown but it seems that it was a natural phenomenon, a collision with a “quasi-satellite “, like Cruithne, or a meteor (the probability is higher I think). The goal was the same, the landing site was the same, the exploration program was different, they had a big job to do with the rover, exploring the roof of the ship by climbing on the “Monaco hill”, (I’ll have to put a lunar map online). NO American astronaut is listes, I discovered since may that many people find many William Rultledge in NASA. I can be found in the list of the Test pilots of Chance Vought, on the consultant list of the James Forrestal Center, I was involved in fluid mechanics. My boss was Bogdanoff (nothing in common with the Bogdanoff scientists).

Stephanie Ellis was born in Abidjan (Ivory Coast) in 1946, arrived in America at the age of 7 months. She was a LM specialist, she worked with Grumman Bethpage for new implementations on the navigation system of the LM (Note that LM15 was officially destructed by Grumman). She contributed to debug the Luminary program, who was never bug free. Apollo 19 and 20 had serious problems with docking and rendez-vous. Her technical knowledge was as deep as Roger Chaffee. She was a wonderful and funny person. I have some pictures of her in the LEM and Ingress 16 mm footage. I’ll not show the other members of the crew.

Russian collaborations; I don’t know how, but Russian were informed of the presence of a ship on the far side. Luna 15 in July 1969 crashed just at the South of the nose of the ship. It was a probe similar to Ranger or Lunar Orbiter. They provided maps, precise charts of this area. The center of decision was located in the Ural, in the town of Sverdlovsk. The chief of the program was professor Valentin Alekseiev, who became later president of the academy of science in Ural. Leonov was chosen because of his popularity in the communist leading staff, and secondary only because he was on Apollo-Soyuz. In 1994, I met again Valentin Alekseiev in Ural, Yekaterinburg, and he had a model of the spaceship made of malachite with incrustations of gold on his desk.

I could tell you 100 stories about how Russians wanted to impress us. For example, when I came to the Academy of the Ural for the first time, my feet sticked on the ground, they had put varnish on the floor, not dried, for showing us new offices, they did all this “the Russian way”, quickly, with quantity, not completely ready.

14) L.S. Is there anybody in U.S.A., Russia or in Europe that can confirm your story? And are you not afraid that somebody can threaten your friends or relatives?

W.R. In USA, honestly I don’t know who is living now. Conrad died a strange way I think, his death was awful. Irwin is dead, von Braun also I think. James Fletcher. Leona Marietta Snyder is alive and communicates and support me in this job. In Russia, Valentin Alekseiev, and Alexei Leonov. Leonov is retired, I’m not sure of this but his health is a problem.

About security, no problem as far I live in Rwanda, I only have problem now in Europe, my family is dead. I went to Rwanda in 1990, and stayed during 3 wars, the April-July 1994 were the worst years of my life, but I have now true friends in the Tootsie community and Government. (I’m not known in Rwanda as William Rutledge and American citizen, I have a whole new life).

I kept my moon flag, beta cloth name, and moon al7b equipment with original dust.

15) L.S. What did you know about the unofficial Warwick Research Institute Report on the “Public Acclimation Program”, released in 1992 to the MUFON?

W.R. I have no knowledge of this report, 1992 was a very hard year for me, I was disconnected from all this, can you give me a link?

16) L.S. Now we can discuss the ancient “alien spaceship” and “the City” on the farside of the Moon. Did you go inside the spaceship? How big was it and what did you find inside?

W.R. We went inside the big spaceship, also into a triangular one. The major parts of the exploration was; it was a mother ship, very old, who crossed the universe at least milliard of years ago (1.5 estimated). There were many signs of biology inside, old remains of a vegetation in a “motor” section, special triangular rocks who emitted “tears” of a yellow liquid which has some special medical properties, and of course signs of extra solar creatures. We found remains of little bodies (10cm) living in a network of glass tubes all along the ship, but the major discovery was two bodies, one intact.

17) L.S. Did you visit “the City” on the Moon? Where was it? Did you understand if was there a connection with the Space ship? Are “the City” and “the Ship” still there?

W.R. The “City” was named on Earth and scheduled as station one, but it appeared to be a real space garbage, full of scrap, gold parts, only one construction seemed intact(we named it the Cathedral). We made shots of pieces of metal, of every part wearing calligraphy, exposed to the sun. The “City” seem to be as old as the ship, but it is a very tiny part. On the rover video, the telephotolens make the artifacts greater.

18) L.S. What about the “Mona Lisa EBE”? [the correct Italian name is “Monna Lisa”] How does she look like and where was she at that time, when you found out her on the Moon. Where do you think she is now?

W.R. Mona Lisa – I don’t remember who named the girl, Leonov or me – was the intact EBE. Humanoid, female, 1.65 meter. Genitalized, haired, six fingers (we guess that mathematics are based on a dozen). Function; pilot, piloting device fixed to fingers and eyes, no clothes, we had to cut two cables connected to the nose. No nostril. Leonov unfixed the eyes device (you’ll see that in the video). concretions of blood or bio liquid erupted and froze from the mouth, nose, eyes and some parts of the body. Some parts of the body were in unusual good condition, (hair) and the skin was protected by a thin transparent protection layer. As we told to mission control, condition seemed not dead not alive. We had no medical background or experience, but Leonov and I used a test, we fixed our bio equipment on the EBE, and telemetry received by surgeon (Mission Control meds) was positive. That’s another story. Some parts could be unbelievable now, I prefer tell the whole story when other videos will be online. This experience has been filmed in the LM. We found a second body, destroyed, we brought the head on board. Color of the skin was blue gray, a pastel blue. Skin had some strange details above the eyes and the front, a strap around the head, wearing no inscription. The “cockpit” was full of calligraphy and formed of long semi hexagonal tubes. She is on Earth and she is not dead, but I prefer to post other videos before telling what happened after.

19) L.S. Were you able to understand the origin of the spacecraft and how old was it?

W.R. The age was estimated to 1.5 milliards of years, it was confirmed during exploration, we found ejections from the original crust, anorthosite, spirals in feldspathoids, coming from the impact which formed Izsak D; The density of meteor impacts on the ship validated the age, also little white impacts on the Monaco hill at the West of the ship…

20-21) L.S. Can you give me the technical details for every material you disclosed on YouTube? I mean, can you distinguish among the tv transmissions from the Lunar rover and the camera footages, during the flyovers? I would need to know the details of shooting for every video you spread on the Web. What is the meaning of the strange numbers visibile on the videos, which sometimes slowly stream over the frames, in the flyover of the Moon?

W.R. I have answered so much time on this, especially to a ESA astronaut. The transfer was in made in Rwanda, […] with codec and sound recuperation is not good, but it becomes better. The subtitles are not genuine, but put on the videos after transfer. I asked to remove the voices sometimes to protect one person from mission control.

We used three video cameras in Apollo, one on the rover, called GTCA, it is not the name of a company (a commenter made a mistake on this) but a Westinghouse color camera. All three color cameras has a color wheel who produced a time frame delay when transmitting to the earth. I think it could be possible for a company to restore a good TV picture. The CSM camera had a black and white monitor, and produced stable pictures, sharp because focusig was visible on the monitor. The LM camera had a glass visor. The CSM camera was used one time on the AGC Visor, using the coordinates I’ve transmitted during the flyover video. The Flyover video was made in zero gravity. I was located on the left window, attitude horizontal, legs around the hammock, lens on the polycarbonate glass. The cameras had a Vidicon tube sensible with light, a large quantity of light, or changing the diaphragms put dropouts during transmission. The markings, numbers are used to perform a good landing. During program 64, when […] in almost in vertical attitude, we had to put the “60″ number on the landing site and hold it on the target minutes before landing. These marks are on the both […] windows, you can verify it on a NASA site. Please verify on a genuine NASA site, (I got a flame by somebody who verified on the Apollo 13 movie) the markings had a special angle inclination. If you check it, you’ll have an idea of my precise position during this sequence.

22) L.S. How did you get years ago the copies of the footages of the mission?

W.R. About the footages […] one day, someone I know told me he was charged to maintain security around a container. A building had to be destroyed, and archives had to be burn by a plasma torch. The nuclear power plant didn’t deliver energy at the right price, so the container was plenty of interest things during some days. As human is naturally curious, people charged of security went inside… My friend took video films, a couple of 16 mm plates, boxes of B/W paper, two enlargers… He contacted me for selling the unsued paper, and that’s how I discovered the other things. I’ve already seen some picture before, 11*16 pictures were violet/blue, old RC photographies, I watched the tapes , it was not a business affair, I put them in security, the only important thing for me were the BW sheets of paper. It was 15 years ago.

23) L.S. Have you ever met Clark McClelland, former NASA engineer who lost his job years ago because of what he discovered at the KSC (I suppose alien bodies or alien objects from the Space)?

W.R. But you can give me the links. Documents can be at KSC, but no bodies or alien craft I think.

24) L.S. You mentioned in a former letter C. M. and M. Who are they?

W.R. C. M. is the website officer on Oceans NASA site [http://oceancolor.gsfc.nasa.gov]; M. also. A. M. is 508 Coordinator. I only have mail exchange with Johnson Space Center for the moment. There is a moment of panic I think since May 18. Check 508 coordinator NASA on a search engine. Statement 508 is the way of pushing NASA to declassify material. I expected a reaction.

Luca >>> it is a part of my strategy, NASA has the right to block me if I download unauthorized information. If they explain why they block me, they recognize that the videos can be obtained from them. If I sue them for violation of Statement 508, they will be forced to prove I downloaded unauthorized material , and it’s not the case, I never go on a NASA site.

Since May 18, I have not a precise answer, I have to wait for a decision from the headquarters.

Even as Italian citizen, you have the right to ask for material from a federal agency like NASA, see 508 Statement:

25-26) L.S. Aren’t you afraid of the U.S. Government’s reaction and why did you talk about the date of September 2007, when NASA and USAF (according to you) “will be forced to tell the whole story before September 2007” What does it mean and Who is your “deep throat”? In another recent your communication to me, you talked about the “2012” year. You said: “In 2012, the weakers will die, and governments preserve the only bit of their heritage […] everybody has to be prepared for 2012”. Is there any connection with the “Planet X” return (the ancient Nibiru, adored by the Sumerians in Mesopotamia) ? What did you know about it?

25 W.R. I’m the deep throat. What can NASA USAF do now? Blocking or suing me would be an acknowledgement. They can speak of hoax or fiction. I’m just afraid they could open a site or another account with my name or putting almost perfect false videos with voluntary errors to disinform. Fortunately, bureaucracy and time works for me. It’s a race.

That’s why the idea of putting the Leonov files is a good idea, no controversy anymore, there are no Leonov footage, no videos of this period of Leonov in a LM or on a USA USAF base. It is unthinkable related to the official version .

26 W.R. I am a passionate of the Sumerian period, of the Genesis as related by Sumerian. They clearly explain how gods created man. But I have no indications on Sumerian cosmogony, send me some links.

There is a question you didn’t ask for and I’m always surprised that nobody does. This could be your question 27 – why is it necessary to hide UFOs, why disinformation, why putting all this under the carpet? It’s question of economics. All currencies on Earth are based on the value of gold. Not many citizens know that but gold is an extraterrestrial metal coming from the death of a star. When a star is dying, its mass is growing, atoms are compressed and when the star explodes, it spreads large amounts of gold in young solar systems. That’s why gold is not a mineral to treat but a perfect, carbon free metal. This mean that it is the most common substance in the universe, no more value than a piece of plastic.

That’s enough to put down all world currencies. Imagine also that an EBE says: “coffee has a good taste, rare in this galaxy”, the only perspective of trading coffee through universe would displace the economic power to countries of the South in one day. You see, not a problem of panic, but simply a problem of economy.

- The end of the interview -

© L. Scantamburlo – www.angelismarriti.it Reproduced with permission.

This drawing below was sent to me from a pseudonym called Verbatim, and it caught my attention when i compared the images with WR`s images. I also got to think of Gary McKinnon and remembered the description of the cigar-shaped space craft, McKinnon say he found in NASA`s data base, there were pictures of what looked like almost exactly like the one in this video. A huge cigar-shaped UFO on a NASA computer marked with various of data.

Craft On The Moon ? compared with drawing sent to me!
While looking at the NASA Apollo Image Atlas I noticed this long UFO in one of the craters. Now this is an official NASA photo in their archives and thus cannot be disputed or debunked. Look at the photos below of the long ancient spaceship in this photo. I also wrote about this ship in both my books Dragons of Asgard and UFO Sightings of 2006-2011. I my UFO book I wrote an entire chapter on it. Look at these photos. If you have doubts that this UFO mother ship exists please visit the NASA page at:

Aliens Come From Hell

Real NASA footage of fallen angels in space & a look into ancient structures on the moon

Very interesting film!

Check also that article - THE BEST EVIDENCE SO FAR!

Saturday, November 10, 2012

Rampant INjustice

That is a scary movie!

The film tells it all.


The web page - http://www.rampantinjustice.com/


Saturday, November 3, 2012

Genocide Watch - South Africa

 
 
Watch this first!
 
President Jacob Zuma sings "Kill the Boer" at ANC Centenery Celebrations in Bloemfontein, South Africa in January 2012.
 
 
Than read what is all about.
 
 
 
De Klerk lambastes ANC ‘s Marxist-Leninist policies

Fin 24
Nov 01 2012

Johannesburg - South Africa's last apartheid president F W de Klerk has blamed the ANC for the country's spiralling social and economic woes. In a speech to business leaders late on Wednesday, the 76-year-old De Klerk lambasted the
wealth redistribution policies of the ANC. He said they would cause "social engineering in which people's prospects would once again be determined by race, rather than by individual merit and circumstances". De Klerk hit out at what he called the Marxism-Leninism of some members of the ANC alliance, which he blamed for widespread unemployment and the failure to attract investment. South Africa is experiencing one of its worst crises since apartheid, as a wave of violent strikes led by miners demanding huge wage increases has highlighted the country's huge social discrepancies. De Klerk, co-winner of the 1993 Nobel Peace Prize with Nelson Mandela, acknowledged that some of the country's woes were inherited from the apartheid but argued that the party of President Jacob Zuma was failing to deal with them. (read more)

Shoot the Boer’ deal struck
IOL News
October 31 2012

AfriForum, TAU SA, the ANC and Julius Malema have reached a settlement over the “Shoot the Boer” song, the ruling party said.
The ANC announced on Wednesday that it had dropped its appeal against a court order that effectively bans singing of the struggle song.

ANC lawyer Leslie Mkhabela said the agreement on the song "Dubula Ibhunu" (Shoot the Boer) was signed by the party, civil rights group Afriforum, and agricultural union Tau SA on Tuesday night.

In September last year, the High Court in Johannesburg, sitting at the Equality Court, convicted Malema of hate speech after lobby group AfriForum took him to court for singing the song. (read more)

South Africa – Official Hate Speech
Stage 5:  Polarization
By Genocide Watch -
12 July 2012
The African National Congress has been South Africa’s governing party since the Presidency of Nelson Mandela 17 years ago, following the end of white minority rule and apartheid.  In the years under apartheid, hate speech was used by both supporters and opponents of the apartheid system to stir up their followers.  When racial tensions in South Africa ran high, the song “Kill the Farmer, Shoot the Boer” was a revolutionary song of the anti-apartheid movement.  However, it is an illustration of the long-term impact that such de-humanizing language can have.
After many years when such songs were no longer sung, in 2010, prominent members of the ANC Youth League, in particular Julius Malema, President of the ANC Youth League, openly sang the “Shoot the Boer” song at ANC Youth League rallies.  Not only did revival of the song strike fear into the hearts of Boer farmers, but it has actually been sung during attacks on white farmers. It is an incitement to murder white Afrikaner farmers.
Over 3000 white farmers have been murdered since 1994. The South African police have not made investigation and prosecution of these farm murders a priority, dismissing them as crimes by common criminals.  The government has disbanded the commando units of white farmers that once protected their farms, and has passed laws to confiscate the farmers’ weapons.  Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocidal killings.
A recent outbreak of violent farm invasions has led to casualties among white South Africans. The farm invasions are direct results of calls by Julius Malema and his Deputy, Ronald Lamola for whites to give up their land without compensation, or face violence by angry black youths “flooding their farms.”
In response to Julius Malema, the Freedom Front (FF) cited Section 16.2c of the South African Constitution, which restricts freedom of speech rights by excluding as unprotected speech "advocacy of hatred based on race, ethnicity, gender or religion and incitement to cause harm.” The FF contended that Malema’s singing of the “Shoot the Boer” song was hate speech and therefore a human rights violation. Acting Judge of the South Gauteng High Court, Leon Halgryn declared that the song is hate speech, and it is unconstitutional to either utter or sing “dubul’ibhunu” (“shoot the Boer.”) He issued an injunction against Malema, ordering him to no longer sing the song. The phrase is now considered hate speech.
Julius Malema was shortly thereafter removed as President of the ANC Youth League, and ejected from the ANC.  However, Malema’s followers have defied the judgment and continue to sing the song. Even
President Jacob Zuma sang “Shoot the Boer” at the ANC Centenary Celebration event in January of 2012.  He claimed that its use at the ANC Centenary was not intended as hate speech, but rather to commemorate the struggle against apartheid.
Despite President Zuma’s proclaimed intent, his singing of the song may be contributing to an increasingly hostile environment that threatens the safety of white South Africans.  The number of murders of Boer farmers has increased each month in 2012.
For ten years, Genocide Watch has been the only international human rights group willing to declare an Alert about the high murder rate of Boer farmers, perhaps because it is not “politically correct” to defend the rights of people who once supported apartheid. Genocide Watch is opposed to all forms of racism, from whatever the source. The President of Genocide Watch actively supported the anti-apartheid movement in constitutional consultations with the United Democratic Front when he was a Fulbright Professor of Law in Swaziland.  He has visited South Africa several times since and will soon visit again.
According to the Genocide Watch 8 stages of Genocide, South Africa remains at stage 5:  Polarization.

Malema 'not scared of bloodshed for land'

News24
16 October, 2012

Johannesburg - Axed ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema believes bloodshed will help him get South Africa's land and mineral resources, according to a report on Tuesday. Malema was in Harare on Saturday to attend a wedding ceremony and address Zanu-PF youth, the Zimbabwe Herald reported. He said the youths in South Africa were calling for whites to surrender land and minerals resources they hold because "when they came from Europe they did not carry any land into South Africa". "What we are asking is for them to surrender our minerals because they did not come with any mineral. We want that land and those minerals for free because they never paid for those minerals." Malema said whites committed murder to get land. Bloodshed "Actually they killed people to get that land and those minerals. We are not going to give them money when we take the land back because it will be like we are thanking them with money for killing our people. "We will never do that, little did they know that we are not scared of blood. We are scared of defeat. We don’t want to be defeated but seeing blood is not what we are scared of as long as that blood delivers what belongs to us we are prepared to go to that extent." Malema told the youth he was in Zimbabwe to gain inspiration and wisdom, so that when he returned home he could "double the spirit of fighting against imperialist forces". He said Zimbabwe was an inspiration to Africa, in that it is now wholly independent and has divested itself of external control. Malema faces a money-laundering charge relating to a R52m tender awarded to On-Point engineers, which he allegedly benefited from.

© News24, 2012

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SA has a lot to learn from Zim - Malema

News 24
15 October, 2012

Cape Town - Expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema has praised Zimbabwe as an inspiration to Africa, saying South Africa has a lot to learn from that country, a report said on Monday. According to Herald online, Malema who travelled to Zimbabwe last week to attend the wedding of Zanu-PF youth league members said the country was "wholly independent and divested itself of external control". "We are coming here to Zimbabwe not because we are running away from problems, but to come and gain strength because what you have achieved is an inspiration to Africa. "Don’t listen to imperialist newspapers. You have achieved a lot. You are running your own country, you have been managing your own affairs and you are not controlled by foreigners. That is what we need in South Africa. "So we came here just to seek an inspiration and wisdom so that when we go home, we can double the spirit of fighting against imperialist forces.’" Malema said the African struggle was not ambiguous as it had clear, set goals. "Our struggle is a defined struggle. We are not a lost generation. We are asking what belongs to us. We are not asking for any favour neither are we victimising anybody." (read more)

Blacks urged to reclaim land from whites 


SABC
16 September, 2012 

Contralesa president Chief Phathekile Holomisa has called on South Africans to stand up and reclaim land from the white minority by next year. Chief Holomisa says the ANC-led government has failed people by adopting the land redistribution policy. He says land was not bought from the blacks it was forcibly taken by whites. He was speaking at the memorial lecture of struggle hero, McGregor Mgolombana at Dikishe outside Mthatha in the Eastern Cape. Mgolombana was exiled because he resisted forced removal for his community. (read more

Malema denies money laundering charges

Al Jazeera26
September, 2012

Activist who has seized South African mine unrest to attack ANC, accused of laundering proceeds of public contracts. Julius Malema, a South African political activist, has claimed innocence against charges that he laundered the proceeds of ill-gotten public contracts. Malema was granted 10,000 rand ($1,250) bail after appearing in the Limpopo province regional court on Wednesday. More than one hundred supporters of the former African National Congress, ANC, youth leader danced behind a fence outside the court building.
He has been locked in a long-running feud with his former comrades in the ruling ANC party, and with its leader, President Jacob Zuma. (read more)


Hawks to probe Malema over violence at SA's mines

Sapa, Mail & Guardian
16 September, 2012

Julius Malema is being investigated for inciting violence during the strike at Lonmin's Marikana mine, in North West, the Hawks say. "We are investigating charges that have been brought by Solidarity," spokesperson McIntosh Polela said.
"They have opened a case of incitement and intimidation. It has been referred to us and we are currently gathering information to help us with our investigation."
On Sunday, it was a month since police opened fire on a group of protesters on a hill near the Marikana platinum mine, killing 34 mineworkers and wounding 78. Another 10 people, among them two policemen and two security guards, died the preceding week. A 45th person, a union shopsteward, was found dead weeks after the shooting. (read more)

Malema at Marikana: 'Many will die'

NEC 'paying attention to the Marikana situation' says Mantashe

Maryke Vermaak1
6 September, 2012      

Gwede Mantashe has stated socio-economic issues were to blame for the Marikana tragedy and that the NEC are paying special attention to the event.
The socio-economic conditions of mine workers at Lonmin's Marikana mine, in North West, were part of what led to their violent protest, ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said on Sunday.
"Mining remains the bedrock of the South African economy, and yet the abject poverty and squalor surrounding mining areas remains a matter of deep concern," he said. Mantashe was speaking after a national executive committee (NEC) meeting in Pretoria on Friday and Saturday. "We have dedicated a lot of time to discussing the Marikana tragedy," he said.
Mantashe said the ANC had, in the past decade, sought to address the situation in mining through the Mining Charter.
"Tragically, in the platinum sector in particular and mining in general, employees and companies have paid lip service to the undertaking in the charter to ensure that living and working conditions of workers in the mining sector are improved."
Mantashe called on the platinum sector to join the centralised bargaining system, because this would go a long way towards finding lasting solutions in the sector and would contribute towards more peaceful resolution of wage and other disputes. (read more)

Why are Afrikaner farmers being murdered in South Africa?
by Leon Parkin & Gregory H. Stanton, President – Genocide Watch
14 August 2012 The following report is the result of an intensive personal inquiry in South Africa conducted July 23 -27, 2012. 
Deliberate inaction of the South African Government has weakened rural security structures, facilitating Afrikaner farm murders, in order to terrorize white farmers into vacating their farms, advancing the ANC/S. A. Communist Party’s New Democratic Revolution (NDR.)
The South African Government for the last 18 years has adopted a policy of deliberate government abolition and disarmament of rural Commandos run by farmers themselves for their own self-defense.  The policy has resulted in a four-fold increase in the murder rate of Afrikaner commercial farmers.  This policy is aimed at forced displacement through terror.  It advances the goals of the South African Communist Party’s New Democratic Revolution (NPR), which aims at nationalization of all private farmland, mines, and industry in South Africa.  Disarmament, coupled with Government removal of security structures to protect the White victim group, follows public dehumanization of the victims, and facilitates their forced displacement and gradual genocide.
Afrikaner farm owners are being murdered at a rate four times the murder rate of other South Africans, including Black farm owners. Their families are also subjected to extremely high crime rates, including murder, rape, mutilation and torture of the victims. South African police fail to investigate or solve many of these murders, which are carried out by organized gangs, often armed with weapons that police have previously confiscated.  The racial character of the killing is covered up by a SA government order prohibiting police from reporting murders by race.  Instead the crisis is denied and the murders are dismissed as ordinary crime, ignoring the frequent mutilation of the victims’ bodies, a sure sign that these are hate crimes.
However, independent researchers have compiled accurate statistics demonstrating convincingly that murders among White farm owners occur at a rate of 97 per 100,000 per year, compared to 31 per 100,000 per year in the entire South African population, making the murder rate of White SA farmers one of the highest murder rates in the world.
Incitement to genocide is a crime under the International Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, to which South Africa is a state-party.
The ANC government has promoted hate speech that constitutes “incitement to genocide.”  The President of the ANC Youth League, Julius Malema, revived the "Kill the Boer, Kill the Farmer" hate song at ANC rallies, until it was declared to be hate speech by a South African judge, and Malema was enjoined from singing it.  For other reasons, Malema was later removed as ANCYL President.  His followers continue to sing the hate song, and the Deputy President of the ANCYL has called for “war,” against “white settlers.”
After the judge’s injunction to halt singing of the hate song, even the President of South Africa, ANC leader Jacob Zuma, himself, began to sing the “Shoot the Boer” song.  Since Zuma began to sing the hate song on 12 January 2012, murders of White farmers increased every month through April 2012, the last month for which there are confirmed figures.
There is thus strong circumstantial evidence of government support for the campaign of forced displacement and atrocities against White farmers and their families.  There is direct evidence of SA government incitement to genocide.
Forced displacement from their farms has inflicted on the Afrikaner ethnic group conditions of life calculated to bring about its complete or partial physical destruction, an act of genocide also prohibited by the Genocide Convention.
High-ranking ANC government officials who continuously refer to Whites as “settlers” and “colonialists of a special type” are using racial epithets in a campaign of state-sponsored dehumanization of the White population as a whole.  They sanction gang-organized hate crimes against Whites, with the goal of terrorizing Whites through fear of genocidal annihilation.
What is dehumanization?
The process of dehumanization has the effect of numbing and decommissioning the moral sentiments of the perpetrator group.  Polarization creates the “us vs. them” mentality, in SA the “Indigenous Black People” group versus the “White Settler Colonialist” group.
ANC leaders publicly incite followers using racial epithets.  By dehumanizing the White victim group, members of the perpetrator group exclude the victim group from their circle of moral obligation not to kill its members.  Dehumanization is the systematic, organized strategy of leaders to remove the inherent natural human restraints of people not to murder, rape, or torture other human beings.  Taking the life of a dehumanized person becomes of no greater consequence than crushing an insect, slaughtering an animal, or killing a pest.
The ANC denies its genocidal intentions.  But the South African Communist Party is more open about its plan to drive Whites out of South Africa. Gugile Nkwinti, South Africa’s Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform has declared that all “colonial struggles are about two things: ‘repossession of the land and the centrality of the indigenous population.’” Mister Nkwinti is confirming the goals of the South African Communist Party’s New Democratic Revolution (NDR) and stating that the colonial struggle is not yet over in post-1994 South Africa.  He is saying that Whites are unwelcome “settler colonialists” with no role to play in South Africa’s future.
The Transvaal Agricultural Union, Freedom Front, Democratic Alliance, IFP, Afriforum and numerous other organizations have on a regular basis called for the South African Government to declare farm murders and rural policing a South African government priority.   The President, who should be the guardian of the constitutional rights of all the people, has deliberately ignored these calls for action.
Former President F. W. De Klerk, on 25 July 2012 during the De Klerk Foundation's Crossroads conference correctly accused the current generation of ANC leaders of cynically manipulating racial sensitivities for political ends.  In our analysis, the current ANC leadership also publicly uses incitement to genocide with the long-term goal of forcibly driving out or annihilating the White population from South Africa. 
This report has explained the rationale for the deliberate inaction of South African government functionaries to prevent, prosecute, or stop the murders of Afrikaner farmers.  As a group, Afrikaner farmers stand in the way of the South African Communist Party’s goal to implement their Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist New Democratic Revolution and specifically the confiscation of all rural land belonging to White Afrikaner farmers.
Genocide Watch is moving South Africa back to Stage 6, the Preparation stage in the genocidal process.
Copyright 2012 Leon Parkin & Dr. Gregory H. Stanton

South Africa: Polarized Country
South African Farm Invasions Are Threatened by the ANC Youth League
Genocide Watch Report:
4 July 2012 In 1961 South Africa gained its independence from the British and planning began to redistribute land owned by whites.  But Apartheid was the policy of the white run South African government, which wanted to maintain racial separation in ethnic “homelands.” The initial goal was to redistribute at least 30% of the farming land to black South Africans, but distribution of land was to be by ethnic group. South Africa’s white minority population currently owns approximately 87% of the arable farmland, with the black majority owning only 13%.
Following the end of Apartheid, in 1994 the South African government enacted a land reform program in hopes of addressing the longstanding issue of land distribution.  Under black majority rule, the South African government’s first attempt at land distribution was through the “willing seller-willing buyer” program, which was a “buy back” program. Through this program the government would purchase land from willing white sellers and redistribute it to members of the black community. It was estimated that the program would cost the government upwards of ten billion dollars to execute, a budget it does not have the funds to meet.
The program was ultimately a failure. To date only 6% of the land has been successfully redistributed.  President Jacob Zuma has openly admitted that the “willing seller – willing buyer” model will not work. His administration has since proposed a new plan in “The Green Paper,” which critics have criticized as vague, and avoiding many existing problems.
Unrest is brewing among black South Africans as the land distribution problem remains unresolved.  Warnings of “inevitable” farm invasions by the African National Congress Youth League have caused great fear among white farmers, many of whom are Boers, descendents of the original Dutch settlers, who consider themselves Africans because they have lived in South Africa for hundreds of years.
Following Zimbabwe’s hostile land invasions, leaders of the ANC Youth League have promised to follow Robert Mugabe’s example, and forcibly expropriate farms owned by whites. Julius Malema, at the time President of the ANC Youth League, has demanded that expropriation should be without compensation. He urged his followers to “take back the land that was illegally stolen by the white man from the black man.” Malema is a racist Marxist-Leninist, and espouses an ideology contrary to the ANC’s “willing seller-willing buyer” program, which would provide farmers with financial compensation for their land.  Malema has since been removed as ANC Youth League President and expelled from the ANC.
At a Youth League Policy workshop, Ronald Lamola, declared, "If they don't want to see angry black youths flooding their farms they must come to the party....Whites must volunteer some of the land and mines they own."  Lamola explained, “But white South Africans must continue to participate, they remain relevant to this process and will continue to do so." His comments were followed by warnings of a “Zim-style takeover.” The ANC Youth League demands that the South African Constitution be amended to permit state approved uncompensated land expropriations.
Gwede Mantashe, the general secretary of the ANC, has openly rebuked the ANC Youth League saying "This is not the policy of the ANC…. It is not the ANC policy to expropriate land without compensation and personally I don't think it will work."
Genocide Watch considers land redistribution to be a ticking time bomb in South Africa.  If the wealthy countries of the world do not assist South Africa in resolving it by financing compensation of land-sellers, the “rainbow nation” could descend into violence and go the way of Zimbabwe.
Genocide Watch rates South Africa at Stage Five: Polarization, just at the edge of Stage Six, Preparation.

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